ShadowDance

Ambartanen wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:12 pm

След този трагичен трети епизод и аз минавам на хейтуочване с приятели.

Кефи ме как без да искат направиха хобитите на социопатски кръвожадни гремлини.

JRR Tolkien created a world which, by definition, is multi-cultural. A world in which free peoples from different races and cultures join together, in fellowship, to defeat the forces of evil. Rings of Power reflects that. Our world has never been all white, fantasy has never been all white, Middle-earth is not all white. BIPOC belong in Middle-earth and they are here to stay.

Ако екранизират "Хамлет" сигурно ще кажат "ама то никъде не пише черно на бяло, че датските благородници са все бели, може и да не са"

The funny thing is, when the casting of Corlys Velaryon (by actor Steve Toussaint) was announced, a strange thing happened: fans started trying to convince themselves, and others, that in fact the Velaryons were black in the books, or at least they could be. I hesitate to use the term, but it felt a lot like gaslighting. Of course, these attempts were misguided and wrong. George was nearly as explicit as he could be, in the novels, in The World of Ice and Fire, and even in Fire and Blood. Any attempt to point that out? “Racist!” It was absurd.

Matrim wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:36 pm

Аз още след първи епизод се отказах. Междувременно PR екипът на Amazon изби рибата:

JRR Tolkien created a world which, by definition, is multi-cultural. A world in which free peoples from different races and cultures join together, in fellowship, to defeat the forces of evil. Rings of Power reflects that. Our world has never been all white, fantasy has never been all white, Middle-earth is not all white. BIPOC belong in Middle-earth and they are here to stay.

The story comes first. The Inclusion Policy recommends casting characters from all backgrounds, as long as it does not compromise the authenticity of the narrative. For example, when a movie or series focuses on a particular racial/ethnic group, or is set in a homogenous context or location, it will be exempted from the requirements to diversify casting.

To reduce invisibility in entertainment, and where the story allows, we aim to include one character from each of the following categories for speaking roles of any size, and at minimum 50% of the total of these should be women: (1) lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or gender non-conforming / non-binary; (2) person with a disability; and (3) three regionally underrepresented racial/ethnic/cultural groups (e.g. in the US, three of the following: Black, Latinx, Indigenous, Middle Eastern/North African, or Asian / Pacific Islander or Multi-Racial). A single character can fulfill one or more of these identities.

Most productions have a multitude of speaking roles, from leads to smaller roles. Where it doesn’t compromise the authenticity of the story, the minimum aspirational goals for casting across speaking roles are 30% white men, 30% white women and non-binary people, 20% men from underrepresented races and ethnicities, 20% women and non-binary people from underrepresented races and ethnicities. Where we can have more people from underrepresented racial/ethnic groups, we will seek to do that. These goals apply to open casting roles as well as talent attached to the project at the time an agreement is signed with Amazon Studios. We also aspire to cast at least 10% of our roles with people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or gender non-conforming / non-binary; and 10% with people who self-identify as a person with a disability. Amazon Studios is dedicated to making a good faith effort to inclusive casting and we encourage our partners to do the same.

С воя за расизма се постигат две опорки:
Универсална защита против всякаква критика - няма значение дали диалога е слаб, има слаба или никаква логика и гавра с толкин каноните /по които се очаква да правиш интерпретация за феновете - нали затова се ползва марката и затова се платиха права.
Лансирането на идеята , че може да се идентифицираш с герой само ако прилича физически на теб - с което се оправдават кухите персонажи които с нищо друго не се отличават освен с етническия си произход.

We also aspire to cast at least 10% of our roles with people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or gender non-conforming / non-binary; and 10% with people who self-identify as a person with a disability.

Demandred wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:27 pm

We also aspire to cast at least 10% of our roles with people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or gender non-conforming / non-binary; and 10% with people who self-identify as a person with a disability.

Бая актьори вече сигурно са добавили някоя изсмукана от пръстите самодиагностицирана болест в автобиографиите си.

Anyway, в последните 10-15 години са издадени купища качествени SFF книги, отговарящи в огромна степен на всички най-модерни изисквания за diversity, та като толкова искат продуцентите да адаптират по-малко "проблематични" романи и да не се налага да raceswap иgenderswap половината главни герои, за да си покрият квотите за малцинства, спокойно могат да го направят, ама кинтите продължават да отиват основно за адаптиране на по-стари и проблематични неща.

Litz wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:43 am

Горното обяснява защо са кастнали онова девойче за Галадриел. Селянията плюс това да не можеш да завършиш гимназия си е disability

Demandred wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:27 pm

Anyway, в последните 10-15 години са издадени купища качествени SFF книги, отговарящи в огромна степен на всички най-модерни изисквания за diversity, та като толкова искат продуцентите да адаптират по-малко "проблематични" романи и да не се налага да raceswap иgenderswap половината главни герои, за да си покрият квотите за малцинства, спокойно могат да го направят, ама кинтите продължават да отиват основно за адаптиране на по-стари и проблематични неща.