Retarded SJW douchebag wrote:Childmolester-like entity, I call you a liar because you are. In the article written by Grayson, which you yourself admit was before their relationship, he briefly mentioned Quinn. Half a sentence. That's it. No subsequent review. So the *foundational claim* of the "ethics in games journalism" people is self-evidently false. you obviously know and are merely expecting to not get called on it, as one would expect of someone weho clrearly has no more integrity than a child molester, like you.
“you haven't tried to educate yourself and are waving righteously your ignorance as a shield.”
Irony can be pretty ironic.
“ I gave you links that show that the gamer community had a different reasoning in the beginning, hours after the zoepost came out. And still does.”
You gave me links where people made allegations and described their own personal bias on the issue, but they are insufficient to establish that "the gamer community" is some monolithic entity that was of one mind on this. I am part of the gamer community, and so are most of my friends. And we call bullshit on your agenda.
“There are DEEP ethical concerns about the quality of the media and the financial relationships between developers and game journalists. “
There are much deeper ethical concerns regarding non-gaming media. For example, one the largest media operations in the country was founded by a campaign manager to a former president for the express purpose of spreading political propaganda and has been spending a couple of decades deliberately and gleefully poisoning our national discourse. Given the impact that has I have an exceedingly difficult time giving two shits who an aspiring game developer may or may not have slept with or at what time. So feel free to talk to me about ethics in journalism when you have a legitimate concern. Until then I dismiss you with contempt.
“If for you the fact that the media, the place we're supposed to get our info from, the place that's supposed to REVEAL such kind of crimes, is manipulated by financial interests and fraternization and used to propel certain unfair tactics can be neglected in the light of other crimes, that's your choice.”
Again, this is video gaming, not human rights legislation. And even if it was, rape and death threats would be unacceptable.
“Do you know what else you lied about?”
Nothing, but I do get that you are pathologically unable to see that due to your own sick bias.
“Another thing you should be aware of is that the death threats are not exclusive to Zoe Quinn or Anna Sarkeesian. BOTH sides get them: You haven't heard of those ones, have you? “
Of course I have. I have also heard of false equivalence. All these are unacceptable, but I’m not going to pretend that the trickle of such things from people who (may, allegedly) be on the right side are even remotely equivalent to the torrent of filth from yours.
“Well next time you might want to browse the internet a bit before accusing someone of lying. “
Irony can be ironic.
“Just as a hint, if YOU YOURSELF jump at a person you don't know and start baselessly calling them a liar because they have a different opinion from yours,”
I don’t have “different opinion”, I have the honesty and integrity that you sadly and pathetically lack.
“And our opinions are not even that different - I also don't support the whole cyber violence thing and find it appalling.”
Pull the other one; it’s got bells on it.
And your other links are laughably biased. I have links as well. Honest and comprehensive ones compiled by people of integrity. This Deadspin article is a good overview of what happened and when and who is actually suffering -
http://deadspin.com/the-future-of-the-culture-wars-is...
Here is a tiny tiny sample of the hate your side is spewing -
http://freethoughtblogs.com/.../gamergate-two-faced.../
Here’s a good article about ethics and how the GamerGaters obsession with Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian to the exclusion of other things pretty clearly gives away that they don’t actually give a damn about ethics, in gaming journalism and otherwise.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/.../gamergate-and-the.../
Warning – none of these are videos filled by people who love the sound of their own voice; they actually require reading.
Let’s also remember that you yourself at the beginning characterized the impetus for this as –
“a clear case of abuse of position (game journalists sleeping with a game developer whose game was then reviewed by said journalists)”
-despite the fact the even the links you provide clearly show that *this never happened*. And so, you remain a liar. And, again, *even if it had* it would not in even the tiniest possible way justify any of the vitriol and threats that were flung at Zoe Quinn or anyone like her. And, for fuck’s sake, whatever flaws Zoe Quinn may have (and she does seem to be rather messed up, as some people are at some point in their lives) they are far overshadowed by the creepy obsessive blog where her ex-boyfriend dissects everything about the dysfunction of their relationship publicly and sics fellow creepy obsessive types on his ex when he clearly should just move on. Jesus.
Care to take a stab at speaking with integrity? Or is that truly completely beyond you?
